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Sunday, January 15, 2012

"All Kids Do That" Part 4: Sleeping

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Today's contribution was written by Amanda, who blogs at Confessions from Household Six. zzzzzzzzzzzz............


Sleep Is For The Weak

We all know to expect to be sleep deprived when we have a newborn. It just comes with the territory. That's why we were pleasantly surprised when our first child slept through the night almost from the very beginning. We'd find out later, this was Mother Nature's cruel, evil plot to get us to procreate again. Really as many problems as we had with our oldest, it wasn't bad. So we decided to try again for a second child, who we affectionately dubbed "Plan B," until we had a proper name chosen.

"Plan B," turned out to be a sleeping nightmare. If I had my second child the first time, he would be an only child. He was born what the medical professionals call a late term preemie at 35 weeks, 1 day. He didn't have to stay in the NICU because of that one day (any baby under 35 weeks where we were was an automatic NICU stay). He got to go home with us. We thought this was a good thing. I wanted to take him back after three nights.

This child would only sleep 20 minutes at a time. On MY chest. Or with ME holding him. No one else. ME. The rest of my time was spent wiping his butt, feeding him, burping him, changing his clothes from the formula he puked all over, and holding him. I could not put the child down. He screamed. I couldn't hand him to anyone else. He screamed. Day and night, I got to sleep about 20 minutes of every hour.

Understandably, my memory of this time is a little fuzzy. I was severely sleep deprived. After a few weeks, he settled into a routine where he would sleep for 30 minutes, sometimes even an hour. Sometimes 15 minutes in his bassinet. I was starting to brush my teeth again on a regular basis at least. During this phase this child also started this really fun thing where he would wake up at about 1am for anywhere from 1-3 hours. We spent the next 5 months with him sleeping in the travel bassinet, and me on the couch so my husband could at least function for work. All through this I was SO thankful my older child was in school so I could nap when the baby slept. Otherwise I would've been totally screwed.

Fast forward to age 4 since that's where I next really remember anything significant. We haven't really slept for the duration of this child's life. After the night where he woke us up every 22 minutes, I was ready to rent him out to the CIA. We finally by this point had an autism diagnosis for both boys. We were a year into the older child's diagnosis, and only a few months into the younger child's. We now had an idea of why this child didn't sleep. We were referred to a neurologist. The neurologist it turned out was only comfortable prescribing one med. We had to find a psych- ologist, -chiatrist, someone to get this child meds. No one the neurologist recommended was approved by our insurance. The insurance office tried to refer us to the ABA therapist. I then had to research a list of no less than 17 behavioral health providers to find one qualified and accepting patients to treat a 4 year old. I came up empty. Then the insurance office gave me the name of a CNRP.

The CNRP we see is fantastic. She understood about the sensory needs right away. She understood that even though a couple of behaviors may be atypical, this child IS on the autism spectrum. Most importantly, she found us a medication that allows us to sleep through the night - provided he also has his blankies, toy, fan for noise, and bed tent. We still wake up early in the morning, but it's not every 20 minutes. It's not 20 minutes of every hour. It's not 5am. It's been 6:30am. I never thought 6:30am would be such a glorious time, but it is. Compared to the sleep we've had over the last 5 years, it's sleeping in late.

Now if I could just get my doctor to understand why my sleeping patterns are off. I'm sure his would be too if he hadn't really slept since 2004.



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Wow, you have my deepest sympathies for going through such a bad sleeper for such a long time! Thank goodness you found someone who could help! I have a bad sleeper, and people judge me for it - or they offer such helpful remarks as "ohhhh, mine slept through the night since she was a week/a month/still in utero". I know what an incredible toll it can take and I can only imagine the shock after having a "good" sleeper as well. I am grateful my girl is our first, i always tell my husband she's prepared us for whatever comes next
not sleeping is the WORST. Every thing else seems extra bad when you`re tired....I`m glad you`re finally getting some sleep!
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OHhh that sounds like a slow and psinful torture. I got no sleep for ONE night last night and I'm ready to growl at anything that may approach me.
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pardon me being a geek, but this makes me really think about seratonin and melatonin with these kids...
Oh, I shook myself out of my haze. Nobody cares what I'm pondering, heh heh...
Still, my son has the hardest freaking time falling asleep at night. If we have the right balance of seratonin/melatonin, we are happier, have our anxiety regulated better, and can SLEEP.

Thanks for posting this. I felt so sympathetic and tired just reading, you poor thing!!!
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I won't lie. I get naps. I have an awesome husband. I'm so used to getting up at night now that I take night shift, and when he's home, he lets me sleep as I need to and takes care of the boys. He always asks why I never get him to help me at night, but I figure if one of us gets a decent night's sleep, we're winning half the battle.
well keep on trucking, woman! You are AWESOME!!!
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Wow, that is really hard. I couldn't even imagine it being that bad. It sounds like you didn't have any fumes to even run on to function.

Our son was sleeping literally anywhere from 10-13 hours straight for the longest time, until about a year ago. He falls alseep fine and then wakes up in the middle of the night raring and ready to go - like it's party time. It was getting so bad we spoke with our doctor and the geneticist and agreed that Melatonin was the best way to go and it was for a while.... it stopped working! We even tried the time-release Melatonin.... nope that never worked.

Since he started climbing in and out of his crib, we finally gave in and took the front of his crib off and converted it into the day bed. Now we are paranoid and I am awake all night at this point - thinking he is going to bust out of his room and have run of the house and I will never know it.

We stopped even giving him the Melatonin now and he is sleeping through the night. He does think it's a game when we try putting him down initially. He likes to get out of the bed a LOT, but once he finally settles in, it's for the night. So far so good and going three weeks strong!

Thanks for sharing your story.... we are not the only ones out there that are having to go through this.
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The timed release melatonin kept my 10yo up. He had even more problems falling asleep. He's my kid that once he's asleep though, he's asleep. The 5yo just totally laughed in the face of melatonin. We got to such a high dose he started having nightmares as a side effect when he did finally sleep, so we just stopped.
Our child one was a nightmare... well, I think he would have been if I had ever been able to sleep long enough to actually have one. On more than one occasion I would wake up from a short nap.... on the highway..... on my way to work... driving.
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I've driven many places and had that feeling of "How did I get here?" I'm pretty sure the 2 accidents I've had in the last 5 years have been due to sleep deprivation.
I relate completely.

In college, my friends used to tease me about how much I slept. I took naps twice a day. I know now I was banking sleep for the eventual birth of my son. He also had to sleep on me, and we only got minutes at a time, for a year. I remember when he started walking we made it to a few hours at a time. That was sweet relief!

At three we started a pattern of night terrors that lasted for years, although no professionals believed me. That was frustrating, being told night terrors are really rare and or not real. They were welcome to come on over at 2am to see for themselves but no one took me up on it!

Now he's 11 and I have to say one positive of prepubescence is that he finally sleeps! The self regulation needed to fall asleep is still lacking, but once he drifts off, he sleeps.

Jill, I've been really enjoying this series!
My son, 14, takes Trazadone which is supposedly too strong of a sleep medicine for him but I won't let them touch it. Why, because he is still up all night at least 1x week and up multiple times a night 2x a week. Sometimes he wakes me up and sometimes I just hear him because of those damn mom genes.
thanks for sharing! I personally get jealous when people tell me of their 10 month old sleeping through the night!!
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I don't blame you for not letting them change his meds. My son is taking Abilify now. It works - when he's not on an antihistamine, but food allergies are a whole other post.
I'm thankful everyday that lack of sleep is one of the few problems we don't experience in this house. Both twins sleep blissfully through the night these days. Enjoy your sleep!
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I am 29 weeks pregnant with my 2nd child and I am terrified that I will have a baby that doesn't sleep. My first was a piece of a cake so I feel like Karma is going to be a twat and totally fuck me over. I'm glad you found someone that understands the needs of your child and has helped you!
I remember when my son was born, it was great and scary. He's also never really had naps or slept long periods at night. We're lucky bacause my work is irregular, so I am often able to let my wife sleep in.
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Ohhh. THAT sucks. I remember a stint we had with Katie that only lasted about 6 months, (I think I would have killed SOMETHING had it gone on longer) where she screamed...for THREE HOURS...every night before falling asleep. I can't imagine what you went through though. You are a saint.
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I'm far from a saint. I'm pretty sure I was saying "Go the Fuck to Sleep" before the book. Being woken up every 22 minutes a night will do crazy things to your mental state.

I do want to thank Jill for hosting my post, and for getting the name of my blog right. For that, I will always love her.
omg ...wow... just, wow. I can't imagine! You are some kind of trooper... I'm happy that things are starting to work out for you!
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I thank my lucky stars daily that my son sleeps well. That's one aspect of autism we have been spared and I cannot express how very grateful I am about that!
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Karyn/analogyqueen · 688 weeks ago

Our #2 was difficult as well. Not to that extreme, but we joked that I 'wore' him 24/7. He did learn to take a decent nap by the time he was a year old but with a brother only 18 mos older I was a mess. Turned out #2 had ADHD. He was over stimulated all the time.
At 17 he still has to have the tv on to sleep at night and if possible, during quiet time in class he has to have an ipod on in order to focus. I'm still learning.

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That sounds absolutely terrifying. I hope you are on your way to much better sleeping habits!
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Child slept on me only as an infant. Only ON me. Been there mama. Took 1-3 hours to get him to sleep and he would wake every 20- 45 minutes after that screaming ,"where are you???????!!!!!!!!!" until age 7.5. I did not sleep a full night for nearly 8 years. He still wakes once every night. But that is pure bliss to me. First time melatonin worked, I thought I had killed him. I thought he would stop breathing for sure. Turns out I simply did not know what deep sleep looked like on him. I had never seen him truly deeply asleep. I went downstairs and did not know what to do when he did not wake screaming. I had not slept through the night, or had evening time to myself since he was born. My ears were pricked, body on full hypervigialant alert, muscles tense, ready for the screaming every night. That first night he fell asleep with what we call vitamin M, I sat dumbstruck on the sofa, in a silent house, realized fully fir the first time what my life had been like up until that very moment. I sat there and by myself and cried. Tears poured, body heaved shook and sighed until I, too, could finally sleep like the dead.
OMGosh... Can I get what ever it is they gave your son for PA. I could have written that myself except I have girls. My oldest slept through the night from day 1 & PA well dose not sleep. We have had medicines for her but none have worked not even valium worked on her. Great to hear you found something that works for him & you are finally getting sleep.
O my gosh Amanda, I cant even imagine. We take sleep for granted until we are in these situations. I dont know if I could have been as strong as you. Lack of sleep turns me into a crazed female.
I could have written this..... ^my life^ ugh... he's 3, and now sleeps at night, waking for "fits", but Ims till sleep deprived... pretty sure I have PTSD.... Thank you for writing this. I have 3 other children and raised 3 others besides... There IS a difference!!!
So this isn't just happening to us?! At this point, I've sadly gotten used to the lack of sleep since I don't really have another choice. Every time I hear a new mom complain that she is so tired because her infant only sleeps five hours, I want to hit her. Five hours? OMG that sounds like paradise!
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