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Thursday, February 23, 2012

Kids these days....

I had an interesting encounter on Twitter yesterday. It all started when Tracy said she didn't think Britney Spears should be a judge on X-factor (or something, I don't know), and got called a bad name by some teen Britney fan. Well, I thought that was funny, and I like to make fun of people like that, so I butted in with something snarky and got this in return


Wow! This will be such fun! I love fucking with people like this; angry, pointless and not very smart. So I gleefully responded with something or other, and we went back and forth for a while. This was, without question, the best one:


But as we went on, she started to get smarter; my first clue was her proper use of "you're a cunt," instead of "your a cunt," which is what I would have expected. Her grammar improved; her spelling improved; she literally questioned my "logic." Okay, you can fake being stupid, but you can't fake being smart, and this girl (she's 17) was obviously smart.

Sadly, once I figured that out, it all stopped being fun for me. I like mocking stupid people, but not smart people pretending to be stupid. But I wondered... why would an obviously smart girl pretend to be dumb? Is she playing a role? Does she get some sort of advantage for being dumb? She was pretty, assuming her avatar was actually her; does she think she needs to be stupid in order to get guys? In order to get ahead? In order to get... anything?

I actually felt quite sad about it. Is this what society teaches girls? Is this what parents teach girls? Was this true when I was 17? (I don't remember, it was so fucking long ago....)

As a parent, I consider it my moral responsibility to raise my kids to be nice people, and honest, and true to themselves. But since I have boys it is also my intention, as a feminist, to make sure that they know that it is their moral responsibility to treat women with respect.

How are the girls of today being raised? Are they being raised to own their strength, and to respect themselves? Based on my twitter encounter yesterday, I'm afraid that this isn't the case. Then again, I don't know what the real case is. I'm sure that anybody who is raising girls and who is reading this will tell me that they're raising their girls in that way, but even so, what about the rest of the world?

Anyway, I signed off by telling her that it was awesome to be smart and that she should own that; smart women can rule the world! She thought I was just a crazy old person (she was right). I'm sure she will mature as she gets older; she will (hopefully) go off to college and realize that there are so many more options for her than to play the role of dumb, angry girl on Twitter. I'm sure she'll figure that out. I hope she figures that out.

(Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think the pitbull eating my legs thing was just a joke, in which case: good job! If that was a joke, it was a good one. I'd even say she won that round....)

What do you guys think?



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I don't think pitbulls DO that. I think they strictly bite off faces.

I have started watching "The Voice". . . so I'll just pretend it's about judging for the Voice and not that other show. Bottom line is: Britney can't sing fer shit. She sings her bubblegum songs in her schoolgirl outfits with her helium voice and it sells records. . . but she's not a "Singer". She's a performer. I don't know. . . I think anyone can judge other people's singing if they have a decent ear, but I don't know that just being a performer qualfies you as someone with a decent ear. She'd probably help their ratings though.

And I know this comment doesn't really address the question. . . kids (and adults alike) hide behind a computer screen and fuck with people for fun. . . no comment. . . it is what it is.
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I blame bieber fans. They have taken "If you don't like JB I will murder you" and "If he doesn't marry me I'm going to kill myself" into popular rhetoric.

The internet is a hate machine, and this new generation was raised on the internet.... It's starting to show, isn't it??
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Hormones make kids act like idiots, period. Even the best parent in the world can have a teenager that's a little asshole. Oh, and those hormones don't always do adults justice either.
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Mandy_Fish · 683 weeks ago

Yeah, being a teenager is a form of temporary insanity. I used to be a high school teacher, at an all girls school no less, so I'm like, an expert. Back away from the hormones slowly.
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As I am in the midst of raising a teenage girl, I can tell you that yes, I am raising her to own her smartness and be a feminist and I can also tell you that there are girls who are not being raised that way, and also girls who find the path of least resistance and follow that.

And now I need a drink.XO
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Okay, but... what about society. What does society tell teenage girls about how they're supposed to be? Are girls allowed to be smart?
Great post Jill. Even though I technically have a teen girl we aren't dealing with these kinds of issues (autism perk) but I cringe every time I'm at a school event with her. The 3 inch long skirts, the doing anything for attention, I just want to grab them all and tell them life is about so much more than getting the attention of boys but I know they have to learn that on their own. I remember when I was in school it was "cute" to be an airhead but I think things have gone so far past that now, sadly. Speaking as someone who had my first child way too young, I truly think the key to giving our girls a better future is helping them see their strength and self-worth in academics, sports, the arts, something other than boys.
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After Boyfriend's excessive use of the word "cunt" (not to me, just in general), it no longer has any kind of bite or effect to me. Le sigh.
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I don't think society is necessarily giving the same message to our preteen/teen daughters as some (I hope most) parents are trying to give. So that confuses me as to who actually dictates what society says, ipf not the people in it? I have noticed recently, with regards to smarts, in our school district there are so many "smart" kids that a 95 overall average in all honors classes is nothing...you have to have at least a 98 for anyone to glance a second time.
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Hmmmm a quiche up your cunt, ey??!

Once again, I find myself a bit grateful that autism will give me the gift of avoiding ending up with a bitchy 17 year old daughter. Although, I have a feeling this could be a 43 year old man who lives in his mom's basement.
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I love your blog. It's like a guilty pleasure for me. And I find myself looking over my shoulder, just in case anyone is looking. Young girls can be pretty nasty. Especially when you dog one of their idols like Brittney. But when I think about it, who would want to be like Brittney Spears anyway?
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I think you're missing out on the possibility that she's just a stupid, ugly person who has somehow accidentally managed to achieve proper command of the English language, in spite of a broader set of intellectually-terminal flaws. Sure, I can't say I will ever understand how reprehensibly stupid people can sometimes show inexplicable hints of limited intelligence somehow flourishing in the environs of their otherwise liquified brain, but I figure it's just one of those inexplicable mysteries of the universe that mortal men are simply not supposed to grasp.(not unlike the logistics behind shoving a quiche up one's ass: only Yahweh, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and deranged English majors(and only at the moment *just* before achieving spiritual transcendence while on Twitter) hold any hope for unraveling this puzzle)
quiche, hmm?

Sounds like she was just having a bad share...
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It's true. Too many parents of boys and girls are worried about being a bff instead of raising a productive member of society. Of course the hormones don't help either. I thought our oldest son was starting to get it, and then puberty started. I think his brain fell out his ass. I'm doing my damndest to try and put it back.

It's not just girls. I've seen a trend in boys as well. My son gets picked on for being smart. Brains, for whatever reason, just aren't a favored trait in kids right now among peers. Maybe we should blame the Jackass movies? We just tell him, no matter how old and saggy his balls get, he can always get plastic surgery, but "you can't fix stupid."
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That just made me spit out my quiche, heheh.
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Don't forget she also knows what a quiche is and spelled it right. I think it's possible she's smart and also an awful person. Eventually she'll hone her skills and be a manipulative mega-bitch. You gotta start somewhere.
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Tracy (@calormom) · 683 weeks ago

Great post Jill! I feel a little bit famous being mentioned and inspiring such questions about society. So, yes, seriously this all started because I simply replied with the word 'No' to if I thought Britney would be a good judge on X Factor. Apparently this lovely young lady saw my tweet while searching the hashtag and this ridiculousness ensued. I first laughed out loud because although you got quiche, I was told to shove pizza crust there and wondered, who the hell makes up this crap? Then, like you I was also called the c word and then wondered as well, what the hell is wrong with society that teenage girls have a mouth like this. Also, as Nidia pointed out this Britney super-fan couldn't even spell her name right in her profile. Some fan. So, thanks again for having your fun with her. I was way too tired last night to deal with it, even though it might have been fun. Hopefully she is smarter than we think and she doesn't walk around talking like that all day. We can only hope. I agree with the other moms here, if I had a daughter who talked like that, OMG.
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Not a Perfect Mom · 683 weeks ago

although at first her grammar was lacking, I figured she was smart and just misspelled in the moment..dumb people don't know quiche. They don't eat it, they don't know how to spell it either...
Only a high brow kinda gal would tell you to shove quiche up your ass, low brow gals would tell you to shove a can of spam up there
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Wow, so I need to get back on twitter. That's where the action is happening.

But seriously, I fear for the future. I have come across many teens with these no-one-can-hurt-me attitudes and raw personalities; and it scares me. I was thinking it was only in my little world because I live in a border town to Mexico and these people have no respect for others. Plus with the violence going in Mexico, they are coming to the U.S. in larger numbers and invading our city.

It's not only teens, I want to to blame parents. But we all know the truth is influence. You can be the best parent but can your influence be strong enough? Your children will be influenced by what is both inside and outside your front door.
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I have a daughter. My biggest fear is that she will grow to be one of the idiots I see all over Facebook and Twitter who doesn't know the difference between their, there, and they're or your and you're. Luckily, she is already proving me wrong in second grade (Thank you God!). My husband and I bot hwork very hard to ensure that our daughter KNOWS she is very smart and there is little excuse for stupid behavior. We also work even harder to ensure that she knows she is worthy of the respect of other people and what that means. Luckily as a seven year old PDD kid, she is all about the love and kindness for everyone. I really hope she retains a lot of that attitude. It truly makes her the beautiful person she is.

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It sounds to me like she's perfectly confident with her intelligence (on the Interweb, anyway). She's just fond of the practice of trolling. In person, she may or may not be hesitant to own her intelligence, more socially withdrawn, etc. But the Internet is like Fight Club...for that amount of time, that waiter is a God. (paraphrased, badly)
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I think the problems of the world would benefit greatly from Twitter. Imagine trying to negotiate treaty talks in 140 characters or less. Eco Summit meetings. Global Warming. Presidential elections (there's a concept-twitter can keep most of the candidates blabbering to a minimum).

I don't know how girls are raised in this day and age because I raised boys. I've tried to instill in them to respect women. That's kind of hard when most of the girls in my area don't respect themselves.

Sorry I missed the exchange. I could have used a good laugh yesterday!
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LMAO! first of all, why was she such a die hard britney fan? mb it WAS britney? wait, you said she ended up being smart... nix that. her come-backs were brilliant (brash and completely immature and uncalled for, but brilliant). i will have to use some of those myself. except, im squeamish around the "c" word for some reason. I could substitiue the P word instead? anyway, she probably was smart and definitely quick witted and creative, but her downfall may come from immaturity - she, like many teens, are too emotional and get too hot headed. she was lucky you listened to her and weren't put off by her language. others wont be and even if she is smart, if she cant temper her sh*t, she'll end up in a trailer park. :) (not that theres anything wrong with that....)
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*Gasp* a QUICHE? in your VAGINA?*Gasp* That's quite the colorful insult. Very edu-mecated if you ask me.

you kill me btw
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I have a daughter. She's 11 1/2 right now. I tell her that she is both pretty and smart. When she says she can't, I tell her she can. Her father and I have both always told her she can do anything she wants in life. We let her help us cook and her dad plays Xbox with her. She in Girl Scouts, which I hope is teaching her that girls rock.

Maybe I'm naive, but I'm noticing more and more strong female TV characters. It seems that nearly all the shows she watches have girls in the lead. Our state currently has a female governor, and I know my daughter admires Michelle Obama. Also, she's not boy-crazy yet.

I hope these are all good things. That said, I'm sure she will have her moments of stupidness too. Girls have very silly sides of themselves. Oh, and I've said flat out that I think Britney is a twit and so far, my daughter believes me.
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I absolutely loved this. Laughed so hard. Pit bull?! omg. Catty girls are hilarious, but I think this one is especially witty. My niece (13) recently told me she hates junior high school because people expect her to be stupid there, and she likes to be smart. Broke my heart.
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