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Saturday, July 23, 2011

Amy Winehouse R.I.P.

I'm sad about this; I'm really sad. I thought she was amazingly talented and have been following her career for the past few years, along with the rest of us, and for some reason I kept thinking that she was going to be able to pull it together. It's really no surprise to anybody that she died of an overdose, particularly me, but... I don't know. I didn't think she was going to end up this way. I thought she was going to make it. Maybe I'm naive. Maybe I just had a higher opinion of her than anybody else did.

The first song I heard was Rehab, on the radio; I'm no Winehouse hipster or anything, I heard of her at the same time as the rest of you. At first I was confused by it, though, because it sounds so much like a 1960's girl group, but I had never heard it before. Was it a cover? But, no, that was just her style; not necessarily mine, but okay. I read some articles about her and was profoundly struck by something she said once in an interview: "I write songs because I'm fucked in the head and need to get something good out of something bad." She obviously had her demons, who doesn't, really? But there was something about that line that made me take a particular interest.

I saw that video of her fucking up horribly and what struck me most about it wasn't how much of a trainwreck it was, it was to wonder how the people around her could have let that happen? Not that they let her get on stage in that condition, but that they let her even get to that condition. She's on tour, I think that concert was in Serbia, and she's surrounded by people all day long. She also had obviously been drinking and doing drugs all day long, while surrounded by people? Anybody who actually cared about her would have never let that happen, which must mean that she spent her days being surrounded by people who didn't really care about her. Add that to the the demons she already had and it was no wonder she was an addict. She may have been supremely talented, but she was also in obvious pain; a lot of it, and apparently the people in her life weren't willing to help her.

And why is that? Well, that's just the culture we live in, right? She made a lot of people a lot of money by being a huge celebrity trainwreck. Nobody had any incentive to help her get healthy, where is the money in that? All the while the public watches with gleeful abandon as her life completely falls apart, because there's nothing we like more than to watch somebody's spectacular failure happen in the public light. It puts our own lives in perspective. Hey, things might suck for me, but at least I'm not Amy Winehouse, right? And now, of course, we wait eagerly for the results of the toxicological examination so that we can say things like "Oh my god, she had all of that in her system? What a fool! No wonder she died!" and then we can all feel really superior about ourselves; because she's dead, and we're not. She was weak; that would never happen to me.

I'm not saying this tragedy is any worse than any other; I can keep things in perspective, but like I said, it makes me sad. There was a woman with enormous talent, with public demons and very obvious pain, and she's surrounded by enablers who want to keep her like that. What chance did she really have, anyway?








EDIT: I hate having to clarify myself, but I obviously wasn't completely clear the first time. Yes, of course I know that you can't stop an addict who wants to continue to use. Perhaps even one or two of the people in her daily life actually made a half assed attempt to try? Possible, I don't know. I'm not saying that the fault lies with anybody except the addict herself. But it's probably true that most of the people around her 1. had a job to do and 2. were just there so they could party with her. Even if you take away the alcohol in her hotel room, when 10 people show up at the door with heroin, does the lack of alcohol really matter? It's hard enough for an addict to try to quit when they're just a "regular" person, but when you're surrounded by people whose livelihoods depend on you continuing on as you were, or by a huge bunch of "fans" who want to be able to say that they partied with Amy Winehouse in her final days, and then sell the pictures they took for thousands of dollars... she never had a chance. That's what I'm saying.



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so well said Jill! Sometimes loving someone means risking that they will hate you for stopping you from doing things that will destroy you.
I was naive right along with you...such an amazing talent...for a while she was doing better and then bam...downhill again..
and yes, the enablers make me crazy...but hey, they gotta make a buck...it's sick
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This made me sad too. When I saw the breaking news on TV I swear the hairs on my arm stood up...so sad. It just kills me to see someone spiral downward like this. I wasn't surprised but it was still just a shock anyway. What a waste of such talent. BTW Back to Black is one of my favorites of her songs...thx for posting that video, I love that song.
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that entire album is special

Most British band sfails in America because US bands can do something better. Amy succeeded because she was a street urchin, honest to a fault, who sang from her gut.

she was so talented, but so unhappy...that led to drugs and alcohol.

she will be missed.

good post
I agree-- it is very sad that someone who is surrounded daily by others claiming to care for her and love her would let her get to a point where something like this could happen. I hope that I have never been and will never be that kind of friend.
I thought, or rather hoped, she would turn things around too. Sad day.
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I reject the notion that that is indicative of our whole society. It may be about the entertainment community. But just as you did, I and many others thought that surely there were handlers who at least had an interest in keeping her alive. If she had a recording contract with my company I would have assigned someone to her.. frankly at this point, overdosing pop stars are a result of poor corporate management.
I posted that video on my face book. I listened to her continuously my first year in tx. I was really sad when I saw the news.
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I'm not sure that I agree 100 percent with what you wrote. From what I understand, during her Serbia performance, her hotel room was stripped of all alcohol. Her handlers sounded like they did what they could. The truth is that addiction is a horrible thing. When somebody really wants to get something, they'll find a way to do it. I don't know if she partied with people in Serbia or sought it out on her own.

The saddest part of this is that Amy has been a train wreck for a long time. I don't think anyone is surprised by it, but it is sad she wasn't able to fight her demons and get past her addiction.

Do we know for sure it was an OD? I'm assuming it was, but haven't heard anything officially.
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Alexandra Rosas · 714 weeks ago

I adored her.

I found out about her 2 years ago and love her.

I was so sad.

I thought the same thing when I saw the footage from the effed up show in Serbia: who was around her??? Why wasn't someone hired to watch her??

WTF?

So angry.

Anyway, I once read an interview with her that said she couldn't forget or stop hearing the bullying words from grade school and high school of "ugly girl."

Maybe she never liked what she saw in the mirror but she liked it better under the influence.

So sad.
i had hope for amy as well and so i think this celebrity death saddens me more so than they usually do. i'm always like "oh its upsetting when anyone dies" but i felt close to amy since i've been a fan for a while. i wanted her to get it together and put out some more great music. it was a very sad situation indeed. :(
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I was sad about this,too, because it could so easily have happened to several people I know very well. I have been present in the midst of addiction. I have watched people wrestle with their demons and tried to help but in the end there was nothing I could do. These people are (thankfully) alive today because of something THEY did. Something clicked for them. They were lucky. It may well be the case that the people surrounding Amy didn't care about her. I have had that same thought about Michael Jackson. But it also may not be the whole story. Sadly, I would guess it IS the case that however much somebody cared, it didn't register with her. It didn't matter. She didn't FEEL it. Very sad.
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I agree that if she'd had people around her who weren't enabling her, and who cared more about her, she might have had a better chance at recovery. But there was no way for anyone to stop her; people could have removed all the drugs and alcohol from her room, or watched her like a hawk, but no one could have been there 24/7 to make sure she stayed clean. Ultimately, she had to make the choice to recover and it was clear that she wasn't interested in it.

It's all very sad. Drug addiction is a long, slow form of suicide. I hate seeing anyone self-destruct like this.

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I'm not so sure it's as simple as "why didn't anyone who cared stop her?" She was an adult. If she didn't truly, deeply want to recover, all the help and caring in the world wasn't going to do it for her.

But I did think it was awful that anyone let her get on stage in Serbia in that condition.

I'm terribly saddened by what happened to her, though, the train wreck was painful to see...it's a tragedy when anyone self-destructs, but for someone so young and gifted to blow through so much life and talent is always shocking to me. I can't believe that I'm *older* than she was, and I'm still trying to put my life together for the first time; I feel like "how did you even have time to do this to yourself?"

I was never a big fan of her music, just an admirer of the immensity of her talent, and with absolutely no superiority or glee, just disbelief...I think it's just terribly sad.
I haven't seen the Serbia clip, so I can't comment on it, but I was indeed saddened to hear of her death. She really was extremely talented and obviously tormented. It is too bad she wasn't able to hit bottom, survive and finally get and stay sober. Addiction has a tighter grip on some people than others. There is no WAY I'm capable of judging. I do feel bad that she became a ready, casual, punchline for people and that her death will be met with plenty of jokes and sarcastic comments. I know her actions spawned them, but I feel pretty safe saying she would have rather spared her friends and family the pain she caused.
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Very well said Jill...I really was a huge Winehouse fan...I love that gritty, old-school style of music.

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If an addict really doesn't want to quit and fights you at every turn, what can you do? I'm not saying this was the case here, just supposing. Every news item I ever saw about Winehouse over the years made me think that she was not interested in not being addicted. I felt like her addiction was part of who she was, part of what her music was about. I don't know if that makes sense. Ultimately, she was an adult who made her own decisions about how she wanted to deal with her demons. Those decisions weren't necessarily good ones, but they were hers.
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jill, she was also bi-polar. mental illness plus drugs is like fire + oil.

I will miss her talent.
I hope now she is at peace! She was a great talent and it's unfortunate that she had to go so early. RIP Amy Winehouse.
Thanks for this. Like you, I was wondering how she was surrounded by people who saw her and didn't do anything, and like you, I know that an addict is going to use. It is sad, though, that this kind of thing happens to anyone.
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I agree with Lance. She admitted to being diagnosed with bipolar disorder AND refusing to take meds to alleviate the major symptoms. That definitely played a huge role in her addiction. Esp, with regards to hearing negative voices replayed, racing thoughts, obsessive love, etc. It's a huge shame that such great vocal ability was snuffed by her inability to care enough for herself to get healthy. That's beyond sad. It's tragic.
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You call it bipolar disorder, I called it "obvious pain," she called it "being fucked in the head." Does it really matter what it's called?
It made me sad too, Jill. I wasn't a huge fan. I don't even think I ever heard the whole of "Rehab", but I saw her life just like everyone else. Her life made me sad for her. You're right. Obvious pain. It was written there, on her face.

27...she was only 27 years old. Such a waste.

So sad.
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I was a huge Amy Winehouse fan and like you very drawn into the "will she/won't she survive her own demons" topic. Unlike you though I knew she wasn't going to make it. The people around her - that's a good topic too - what were they doing/thinking? How could they not stop this? I remember once I had to go to brunch w. my mom (alcoholic) in the later stages of the disease. I don't know where or how she got her hands on alc but she was bombed and it was horrible - all the people in the restaurant looking at me like "How could you bring her here" etc. - I was w. her the whole time, and somehow an addict knows how to hide/sneak/get their substance when the rest of us are on watch. Anyway - it was painful to see her - that kind of monumental talent and brilliance mixed w. an equal amount of alcoholism/drug addiction/mental illness - I think she proved that no matter what anyone says who is around you, an addict is going to do what an addict is going to do - even if it ends in their silly, premature death and a wasted life. Sad.
Well said.

It's so hard to believe that she was only 27. I'M 27.

I hope people remember her more for her amazing talent, rather than her demons. Although I know they won't. We always focus on the bad. Why? She suffered her demons, but what a voice!
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My heart goes out to Amy and her Family.
I've heard several horrible comments about her death.
---for example" one blog said--"Peace Out, Crazy Bitch."
I commented back. ... I love those crazy bitches. I have empathy for those crazy bitches. I am one.
At least she is Free of her demons now.

Love your site. :)
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So i have the benefit of reading this long after the results came back that people were helping her all along. . . and that it seemed like she was turning the corner, getting the help she needed. . . and what killed her was her body's inability to deal with going cold turkey. THAT is what makes it so tragic.

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