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Sunday, July 10, 2011

LZ Granderson hates your kids: Guest Post

So, I saw the "controversial" article on CNN.com last week, as did all the rest of us: "Permissive parents: Curb your brats." And, like all the rest of us, I was offended by this guy's chutzpah, I mean.... "If you had "the look," you wouldn't need to say "sit down" a thousand times." Seriously? Have you MET me? Have you SEEN my "look"? Oh, right... of course you haven't, but pesky things like "facts" don't often matter when you're busy judging someone. I considered writing a post about how much of an asshat this guy is, but then I thought that probably there was somebody out there who could do it better... and MAN was I right!!!

Please welcome Yvonne, who blogs at Attracted to Shiny Things. She can also be found on Twitter at yvonne9903. She did this shit RIGHT. Go Yvonne!!!



LZ Granderson hates your kids. So does everyone else. He said so.


LZ Granderson is an asshat of a CNN contributor, who has won some awards and has now decided that he's the most fucking awesome parent of anyone. Ever.

You know, because he has a kid. And "the look."

What is "the look"? I don't really know, but LZ discusses it several times in his judgmental article entitled, "Permissive parents: Curb your brats."

LZ assures us that "the look" will make any child immediately take heed of his/her parents warnings, sit down, be quiet and allow all adult conversation to pass without interruption. For hours, even.

How do you know if you possess "the look"? LZ wasn't very specific on this point, but he did say if you have "the look," you won't need to tell your child to "sit down" a bunch of times.

If you have "the look," you won't need to say much of anything at all, says LZ. You pretty much won't have to talk or interact with your child at all. They will just sit there, quietly noshing on their plate of steak and leafy greens, while you and your agent discuss your contract for the next year.

"But this nonverbal cue needs to be introduced early and reinforced diligently with consequences for transgressions, just like potty training." So if your child poops his pants, make sure to give him a diligent consequence.

LZ doesn't suggest what qualifies as "a diligent consequence," but it sounds like it might leave a mark.

"And whenever a kid throws a temper tantrum in the middle of the shopping mall it's just as bad as his soiling his pants to spite his parents, and it stinks just as much," says LZ. I don't know about you guys, but I'm definitely seeing a pattern here. A poop-centric pattern. Anal-retentive much, LZ?

Except there's this. If you are honest with yourself, you will recall times that your own child(ren) had a tantrum in a restaurant, started screaming in the grocery store or impulsively ran towards a shiny display at the Mall. And studies show that due to age-determined developmental constraints, children lack the ability to control their emotions, behaviors and responses approximately most of the time.

That's just the way kids roll. Sorry to inconvenience you LZ, but I'm willing to bet you were a brat when you were little, too. But if my kid has a tantrum, I'll tell you what. I will address it. I will give him an appropriate consequence, after I find out what his damage is. Not because you told me I should, or tried to shame me into giving him some dumbass "look," but because I am a good parent. As are most of the people you decided to take to task in your hastily-written and obnoxiously judgemental article. So fuck you for assuming otherwise.

Now.

There's another group of kiddos I want to talk about. The one's that LZ neglected to mention, probably because he didn't think of them. Because LZ sounds like he's all about himself.

The kids with disabilities.

Here are some common childhood disorders, which can affect a child's everyday functioning:

Autism/PDD-NOS/Asberger's Syndrome

OCD

ADHD

Sensory Integration Disorder

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

Bi-Polar Disorder

Anxiety Disorder

Language Processing Disorder

Tourette's Syndrome

That's right. I'm going there. Because my awesome, wonderful, loving and sensitive 8-year-old son also carries a diagnosis of severe ADHD, along with OCD, sensory integration issues and anxiety. Add that to the fact that his dad and I divorced at the beginning of this year. Oh, let's not forget the fact that his dad just died. Totally not ok with any child, especially one who obsesses. So yeah, my kid is going to act out sometimes and OMG it might happen in public. Don't worry LZ, I'll handle it.

So here's the deal, you judgmental sack of shit.

YOU DON'T GET TO TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY CHILD.

YOU HAVE NEVER HAD TO HOLD HIM IN A RESTRAINT, BECAUSE HE'S FREAKED OUT THAT DADDY DIED.

YOU HAVEN'T CHASED HIM DOWN A BUSY STREET, BECAUSE HE'S TOO OVERWHELMED AND ANGRY AND SCARED AND OBSESSED ABOUT THE NEXT PERSON IN HIS LIFE WHO MIGHT SUDDENLY LEAVE HIM.

YOU HAVEN'T CRIED YOURSELF TO SLEEP AT NIGHT, WORRYING THAT HIS MENTAL ILLNESS IS ONLY GOING TO WORSEN WITH AGE AND TIME.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HEAR HIM REPEATING THE SAME PHRASE OVER AND OVER AND OVER, ALL BECAUSE A NEURON IN HIS BRAIN TELLS HIM IT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

YOU HAVE NEVER FELT YOUR BREATH CATCH IN YOUR THROAT, AS, AT THE AGE OF 6, HE PIPES UP FROM THE BACKSEAT OF THE CAR, ASKING, "MAMA? DO YOU EVER HAVE VOICES IN YOUR HEAD, TELLING YOU TO DO BAD THINGS?"

YOU DON'T SNEAK INTO HIS ROOM AT NIGHT, JUST TO BE ABLE TO SEE HIS SWEET FACE, FINALLY AT PEACE AFTER A TWO HOUR CRYING JAG.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO HIM APOLOGIZE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE'S DONE BAD THINGS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HEAR HIM TELL YOU HOW MUCH HE HATES HIMSELF, AND THAT HE WISHES HE WAS DEAD SO HE COULD BE WITH DADDY.


And the list goes on.

LZ, you are an utter asshole for assuming that you can lump all children under the umbrella of "poor parenting." And you are an even bigger asshole for assuming that the overworked, overstressed and emotionally burdened parents of these children even give a fuck about your opinion.

Except, deep down, your hurtful words resonate within them, amplifying the negative self-talk they've hammered themselves with.

I'm a bad parent.

Maybe he would be better off with someone else.

I never thought it would be like this.

My heart hurts so much for her, there are no words.

He is his own worst enemy.

I just wish she had ONE best friend.

Who will even WANT to take care of him if something happens to me?

I just want him to belong.

My family thinks she is a brat, I'm tired of feeling so judged.

And the hardest one for us to admit, even to ourselves?

I don't want to do this anymore.


So, yeah. I'm extremely offended by your holier-than-thou, judgmental attitude.

The world, and its children, would be much better off if you just shut your ignorant mouth and listened.

You will be amazed at what you learn.



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I'm glad I'm not the only person that thought that guy was a complete narcissist and unfeeling a-hole.
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Lori Dyan · 716 weeks ago

Yvonne - you are amazing and this response is perfect.
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I've seen permissive parents who need to curb their brats, plain and simple. And I've also seen a very few parents of children with disabilities who don't try to train them to use good manners.

But I think most parents do a pretty good job, and Mr. Granderson had an opportunity to encourage them or offer some sort of special insight. Mind you, I don't blame the columnist for printing such stuff. Everyone can have a piece that is totally OFF. I blame THE EDITORS wholly and completely.

Thanks for listening and Yvonne, you did an excellent job. God bless you and your li'l guy.
you rock Yvonne. As a teacher for years, i can tell you i have mastered many versions of "the look"--and my kid just laughs his ass off at it. He also says please and thank you, and offeres comfort to anyone having a difficult time (if he's not having one himself). So LZ Granderson can suck it. douchebag.
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Yvonne, I think I'm in love with you! Great response to that asshat clown.
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Is it bad that I'd really like to punch that guy in the throat? Asshat doesn't even cover it.
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I must be living under a rock - I had no idea about this article. I often give my own ASD son "the look" and, sorry to say, sometimes it works. Of course - I NEVER give him the look when it is about a meltdown from sensory input or relating to his ASD. I can completely understand that any a-hole who writes that all children can be controlled by "the look" without qualifying his statement to his own universe in which there are no disabled children really requires some control by editors - like Happy Elf Mom says but if the editors are just as ignorant it won't get through. It then comes down to strong good writers like Yvonne to bring to light the idiocy of these kinds of comments.

This is a strong and passionate post, Yvonne. My heart is heavy for all you and your son have been through with the loss of his father. It is a very difficult, heart-wrenching loss, especially with such a sensitive child. The apologizing by a small child breaks my heart. I hope with time, you both find peace and less chaos. (((Hugs))) to you for the difficult times.
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My wife said this man is in desperate need of a dump truck full of poopy diapers in his front yard.
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That idiot! Wonder how he would feel if his kid were the one with a disability.
Usually a comment would go here, but I really have nothing to add. Well said.
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@Mandy_Fish-Oh no, you are definitely NOT the only one! ;-)
@Lori Dyan-Thank you so much! I was honored to be asked by the AMAZING Jillsmo!
@Happy Elf Mom-Yes, I've seen both types of those parents as well, but I think LZ came off so judgemental that people either became equally judgemental or defensive. A sad use of a teachable moment. Thanks for the compliment and the thoughts!
@Dawn-I know, right? I also have "a look", which works most of the time. When it DOESN'T work are the times Zach is so hyper-emotional that he can't even focus or function. Then he doesn't care about "mommy's stupid look". Thanks for liking my post!
@Heather-Yay! Thanks for the follow! I read your blog and I loved it! The "follow" button isn't showing up, but I did "like" your fb page.

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1 reply · active 669 weeks ago
Yvonne,..you rock. Well said in putting it to that self absorbed assclown who resides in a bubble of his own perfectness.
@Ryan-I'll hold him for you!
@Solodialogue-I do "the look" too, I just think it was stupid of LZ to assume that's the solution to every child's meltdown/tantrum etc. When he talked about what I would describe as regular tantrums, he never once mentioned *gasp* talking to your child or using 1,2,3 magic, etc. Thank you so much for liking my post, and for your kind words. Every day it gets a little bit better, his dad's death really pushed him over the edge and brought all of his symptoms to the forefront AT THE SAME TIME. OMG, it's been horrible. Thanks for the hug too!
@Cactusinyrpants-lol, love ur name. If your wife did that, LZ might give her a diligent consequence. So watch out.
@Sharyn-I suspect he would then have written an article about how people need to stop judging parents with disabilities, lol. Thanks for the follow!
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YES! YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!! Thank you, Yvonne, for this response. LZ can ride his ignorant high horse right off into the sunset. The rest of us live in the real world with real kids--special needs or not. Someone commented to him that people should have to take some kind of test before they become parents. You know, I might actually agree with that.
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A&A, thank YOU! Coming from you, after reading your post last night, that is HIGH PRAISE. Now I'm glowing.
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I can't believe I didn't hear about this guy until now. I wouldn't want to be this guy next week when he googles himself. haha. This is awesome. I really wish people would just stop for a minute and think before they judge. It would make things so much better. Glad to have a new blog to read, Yvonne! =)
1 reply · active 716 weeks ago
I was thinking the same thing! When I googled "LZ Granderson is an asshole", last week, my blog was number one but somehow it's been buried beneath all of LZ's CNN articles. Hmmm... Thanks for the follow!
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I'd call him a pig, but that'd be an insult to pigs.
I like the idea of a dumper truck full of dirty nappies being delivered to him.
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By default I ignore anyone who says someone along the lines of "Parenting...you are doing it wrong". He sounds like an asshat.

But this look thing has me intrigued. I don't think I possess it. Would love a tutorial on that. My son just laughs at me when I give him the look or says some shit like, "Mama, why do you have that mad face on?" Nope, doesn't work for everyone.
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Handflapper · 716 weeks ago

Too bad there are parents who spend no time with their children teaching them life lessons and civility, gentility, etc, but it's the parents who are the brats. These children don't need to be curbed like dogs. Parents don't need a "look." They need to PARENT.

Wonderful post. I admire both you ladies so much.
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1 reply · active 716 weeks ago
LOL Handflapper! I love that your newest post is about poop. Can't wait to read it, and thanks for the words, I think you're awesome too! (I know you didn't use the word "awesome" but I could tell that's what you meant. Cuz I'm psychic).
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This is a great post all around. But that this at the end brought me to tears. Thank you.
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I've read his columns for some time. He recently had an article that was spot on about parents allowing their daughters to dress like hootchies. So I am familiar with his writings and they are not all this offensive but I think I find it offensive because of my situation. This article hit a cord with me because 10 years I would have though a parent who couldn't handle their child had a brat. ha ha no. In a reality of the life I live in it isn't always black and white. This was the first time I ever felt compelled to respond to an article on CNN because well it draws A LOT of different views and usually not what I think. Anyways I pointed out the special needs kids and how while my daughter may look normal she is not. She has Autism. And while on a good day she can handle a store with little issue but if you stretch it out just a bit much she has a melt down. So she becomes THAT child. One responder told me I shouldn't take her places where she would be overstimulated. Funny. I go to Walmart so early that my friends are always like are you serious? Am I suppose to not feed my family? If the clerks were faster we wouldn't have melt downs in the check out line. She wants to move. She doesn't like to sit still. Sound familiar?
Another responder said ADD/ADHD is something a strong discipline wouldn't help or basically getting kids outside with fresh air and running them ragged wouldn't help either. Most of the responses I had to my response were others who in my situation.

If my daughter had downs syndrome or was in a wheel chair ( a disability so visible that there would be no doubt) NOBODY with their head out of their ass would make a comment as vocal about someone's parenting skills.

I said in my post that I will not be kept a prisoner in my house because my daughter has Autism and neither should she or anyone else in our family.
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@Amber- I totally agree, nobody likes to be told what to do. Especially by a stranger. An asshatty stranger. Amiright?
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@Michel- I totally agree. I work with kiddos who have disabilities (I'm a behavioral therapist) and I always say that some of us have our disabilities on the inside (I know I do). I wonder, if a child with a physical disability was in a wheelchair, and had a "tantrum" because he/she couldn't get somewhere because of their chair, would LZ judge that child or defend them? Just because we can't always see it doesn't mean it's not there.
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Yvonne!!! You are awesome!! 'nuff said!
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Aunt JoEllen · 715 weeks ago

I am so glad that you posted this Yvonne. It is easy for some people to judge, when they have no idea what they are talking about. You nailed it and I couldn't be more proud of you.
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Wow! Even with all the f*cks? (She hates it when I swear). LOVE YOU AUNT JOELLEN!!!
Yvonne, I laughed and I loved it...right up to the moment when you mentioned your breath catching in your throat. I've been that mother. I am that mother. In fact, 99,9% of your description of your own life...I can relate. *hugs*
Fuck yes! I really hope you sent this to him!
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Can't Say My Name! · 715 weeks ago

If I could just present another side. I think many people are taking very personally the thought that their disabled or impulse-control-challenged children are perceived as "brats" by this self-righteous jerk. There's another side though. There ARE kids out there who have no disability other than lazy parents, who do make it hard on other people out in the world because their parents won't parent. I personally know several children who have NO "issues" at all but are routinely allowed by their parents to scream, yell and run around in restaurants and other public places. I've had the opportunity to watch this pattern develop from a permissive early childhood and blossom into the belligerent adolescent years. It will probably only get worse from here. The parents are too permissive, do not consistently punish (only threats, but no time-outs, loss of privileges, etc.) or are too afraid to follow through for fear of worsening the present attitude or tantrum. I have seen a relative give a kid CANDY to BRIBE him into behaving, so I guess THAT kid has learned a new way to make money (candy being kid-currency), hasn't he. I don't think it's really about having a "look", it's about being consistent about making kids follow rules. Again, let me stress that I am NOT including kids facing issues with impulse control. Anybody who is pissed about a crying baby on a plane is an asshole. But the parent of a six-year-old who lets their child stand on their seat and lean over into my seat bugging me for 20 minutes of every hour on a long flight? It's not the child who is the brat, it is the parent. These are the same kind of parents who show up somewhere (a party for example), turn their kids loose (starting in the toddler years) and never look for them again, leaving them to whatever mischief they like. I think a lot of people would agree there ARE kids out there who are a pain to deal with, simply because their own parents WON'T. While you parents of kids with issues work twice as hard as you otherwise would if your kids didn't have their issues, there are definitely parents out there with "perfect" kids who don't bother to parent at all.
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Why can't you say your name? You're allowed to have an opinion! And besides, I completely agree with you. There ARE shitty parents who let their kids run wild, and that's who this asshat was trying to talk to. The problem, however, is that people will look at our kids and just assume that they're behaving in that manner because we're that kind of shitty parent and never even consider the idea that there might be something else going on.

That's what's wrong with articles like this. I'm sure if LZ were confronted by any of us, his response would be "oh, but of course I don't mean YOUR kid. I'm not talking about YOUR kid" except... he didn't say that. He just assumes that my kid is a brat and that I'm a shitty parent. That's what needs to change. Well, that and there shouldn't be shitty parents, but that's totally out of my control ;)
I agree with Jill and I couldn't agree with you more! You presented your ideas really nicely. I am a counselor and 95% of my caseload are children 0-3 with behavioral difficulties. Most of the time when I get to the home, I discover parents who 1) don't discipline/reward, 2) are self-absorbed 3) worry that they'll "alienate" their child if they give consequences 4) don't know how to successfully parent 5) have expectations that are to high, or 6) a combination of the above. Most of the kids I work with are totally fine, it's the PARENTS I have to work with. In these cases I act as cheerleader, backbone and external validation. And? I tell parents that their child will not grow out of these behaviors, they will grow INTO them.

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Still Can't Say!! · 715 weeks ago

One more thing. When a kid is acting up in public and the parent is trying to control the situation, I think everybody understands that they are doing the best they can. What pisses people off is when a kid is tearing the place apart and the parent is sitting there drinking a beer and texting and possibly even laughing at the mischief "Junior" is creating.
1 reply · active 715 weeks ago
No, my problem was with LZ's assumption that whenever he sees a child acting out, that child is a "brat", no other questions asked. It was the generic, bratty kid/bad parent blanket/umbrella that I object to. If he was going to write this article, I think atypical kids should have been mentioned, that's all. Thanks for the read!
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Still Can't Say!! · 715 weeks ago

I can't say my name because I am RELATED to some of these children I mention, and would not want my opinions getting back. No, it's nobody here though!!! :) Let me also say my kids don't have any impulse or sensory issues, but I too have been the horrified parent of a public tantrum before. It's embarrassing, I know. Plus most kids do have their off days even if they are normally angels. Ha. If we are trying, that's all we can do. One of my kids had health problems when she was younger and from about age two to age four, would have a 30-40 minute-long, violent tantrum every day. It was a living hell, so I realize there are kids who need extra care and who just WEAR their parents out. I am lucky and grateful that it passed, and it was so tough staying patient... I am well aware that parents of kids with issues deal with similar challenges on a daily basis and I feel for them.
I think a lot of its the child. I give Darling Boy the look and he shakes in his shoes, apologizes and stops the behavior. He did this at 3 and he does it at 10.

Princess Persistent? I give her the look. Nothing. I yell. Nothing. Time outs. Nothing. She is simply not afraid of me.
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