It's funny because of all the small creatures who live in my house, the only one of them that I wouldn't mind smothering me would be Child 1, except he practically never comes near me any more. Oh, he'll ask for food, and he'll ask for help getting Child 2 to leave him alone, but he never "hangs out" with me, and he never spends extended periods of time in the same room as me. He spends time with Child 2, in the mancave, playing Mario Kart, but otherwise he's usually in his room by himself drawing or something.
It's frustrating. I'm very frustrated. I can see in his face that something is going on in his head, but I can't for the life of me figure out what it is or how to get him to tell me what it is. I know he doesn't like school, I know he doesn't like doing homework, I know that the workload in 4th grade has massively increased over last year, so I can only assume that these are the things that are bothering him, but I don't know for sure and I feel so shitty about it. I've talked to everybody at school and nobody has any clue.
I ask him what's going on and he always says "nothing." I sit with him and ask him what he's doing and how he's feeling, and he says "please leave me alone now" (one of the first skills he learned in ABA: to verbalize when he wants to be alone. Great job?) I stop him and make him look me in the eye and promise me that he's okay, and he does, but I know it's not true. I know he's feeling bad, because I look at his beautiful face and I can tell. I'm his mother and I know something is going on. He has red circles under his eyes and he's constantly pretending to be sick so that he doesn't have to go to school. I want to know what it is. I want to know!! I can't help him feel better if I don't know why he's feeling bad. I feel awful, and helpless, and frustrated, and sad; most of the time.
I don't know what to do. Any suggestions?

UPDATE: I've talked to everybody at the school and they're all totally perplexed by this because, they say, at school he's perfectly fine. He's happy, he's compliant, he does the work, he does a great job, all is well. Then WTF????????? We're going to have him talk to the school psychologist and see if she can get anything. I'm totally at a loss and I feel like a total failure. I'm a shitty mom, I can't even get my kid to tell me why he's falling apart emotionally. I suck. I feel like shit. FUCK!!!!!!
Chrissy Jadwisiak · 701 weeks ago
As for your problem. I totally understand what you're saying.. would the school be up for you observing your son for a day without your son knowing so that you could see if you could figure out the problem?
I wish I had more insight for you...
annanonamus 19p · 701 weeks ago
I don't know. Does he work with a therapist at school? It might be a good idea to bring it up there, or with his teacher, and let them know what is going on at home. See if he's the same way at school as he is at home.
My little Aspie is usually more clingy than not- she's always up in our business, so it's not something I have dealt with directly. She does have a staff of workers at the school, though, and anytime something different is going on here at home, or there at school, we talk with one another to make sure everyone is aware of it, and to see if either side knows if something happened.
Good luck, hun...
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Dani G · 701 weeks ago
Thinking about you xxoo
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Tina · 701 weeks ago
In my opinion, which might be completely full of shit, what is needed here is a time out. Stop asking all those questions for right now. Instead, just sit in the same room and let him be. Go out and do something that he likes to do, and let him tell you about it. Don't ask him any questions about anything emotional. Doing this periodically will re-establish you as someone who won't stress him out.
This method also works on husbands, by the way.
You could also ask him to draw a picture of what is bugging him, if he still can't tell you. But if he does start talking, or he does draw you a picture, remember to keep a Spock-face about it. He may see any emotional reaction from you as a negative reaction.
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chavisory 70p · 701 weeks ago
Is there any way you could find for him to write about it? I'm not gonna tell you to read his journal or anything...but lots of us find emotional writing much easier than emotional talking.
Monica · 701 weeks ago
Good luck!
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Julia · 701 weeks ago
He might just need a bit more time to process what he's going through. One of my Aspie boys (I'm an OT) said to me this week "you know my cat died? I almost cried" his cat died about 6 weeks ago and he showed no reaction at all at the time but has obviously been stewing over it all this time.
Amanda · 701 weeks ago
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blogginglily 73p · 701 weeks ago
My NT daughter sometimes gets sullen as a fourth grader. She's similarly tight lipped about what's troubling her when that happens, and I do recognize that it's not really apples to apples here. Just encourage him in the things he enjoys, and allow him a safe haven (homework notwithstanding) from the things that trouble him when he's at home. Let him know that he's loved and that you're there for him.
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Lisa QF · 701 weeks ago
Have you tried talking to a mom of one of the kids in your son's class?
Either way I agree with blogginglily - let him know he's loved and that you're there.
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Kim · 701 weeks ago
I also ask him what was the best thing about school that day (usually, his response is "leaving"), and what was the worst. Then I tell him my best/worst thing. It doesn't take long, then he can retreat into his room, or get online and ignore me.
Maybe you can ask him to draw a picture about what he's feeling? Like suggest that he draw an invention that would make his troubles go away...maybe something like that would work.
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Lizbeth · 701 weeks ago
Thanks Jill for this post and thank you for the comments--there is gold in your words.
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Hugs!
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chavisory 70p · 701 weeks ago
I had another thought...he may not even fully realize what's not fine, if he has nothing to compare it to. If it's something that he has no way of knowing what the alternatives might be...if he can't know what "better" would be, then it's hard to know what "wrong" is to begin with.
Also, is there maybe another adult friend in his life, who's not from the school, who he likes and seems comfortable with? Like a neighbor or old babysitter or aunt or uncle he likes but doesn't see very often--somebody with some distance, who he might let it spill to?
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We found out, that Xavier was getting bullied, after he had been throwing up and with stomach aches for 3 wks.
His Dr said it was a long stomach flu, and I believed him.
Until it all fell apart one day at school.
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