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Tuesday, May 3, 2011

I barf on your standardized test!

So, standardized testing starts this week. For anybody with a kid in public school grade two or higher you know what I'm talking about. This is how school districts and states and everybody with an opinion, informed or otherwise, determine "how well" a school is doing. No Child Left Behind puts particular emphasis on the importance of test scores and if you don't do well you end up in what they call "Program Improvement." Our school is in year 5 of PI and I think our district is, too. This is supposed to mean a lot of No Good Really Bad Things for both the school and the district, and I've been hearing of dire warnings for years now about how the entire world will come to a screeching halt once we're in PI Year 5. I'm still waiting for that to happen.

Anyway, I've never known what to do with Child 1 and The Test. He can't take it without what they call "accommodations," which apparently means his score doesn't even count? I honestly have no idea and no matter how much I try I can't seem to find anybody who will explain this to me in a way I can understand it.

First of all, in my personal opinion, I think that relying on standardized test scores to judge how a school is doing is pretty stupid, particularly since (theoretically) the consequences of failing are supposed to be so dire. Not all kids are good at tests, I never was, but that doesn't mean I'm not smart. And it seems like everybody (adults) puts so much pressure on these kids to Do Well On The Test, how could you not crack under that kind of pressure? Not to mention the pressure that teachers get for their students to get good scores. Every teacher I know will tell you that the test isn't a measure of how well their students are doing, it's a measure of how well they are doing, as teachers. And then their teaching ability is judged by their students' scores, sometimes with some pretty fucked up consequences (read that article, I'm going to refer to it later and you're going to feel stupid for not knowing what I'm talking about). I don't understand how The Test is an accurate measure of anything, really.

And then there's that whole "Teach to the test" thing that pisses people off so much, and rightly so IMO. Because of all the pressure for teachers to "do well," all they end up caring about during the school year is making sure the kids know which bubbles to fill in when the time comes, and that becomes their entire focus. When this happens, kids don't get a whole education, they only get the bits and pieces that they'll need once they get that scantron form. This may be an unfortunate truth, but it's obviously stupid.

And then there are all the subgroups and demographics and statistical blah blah blah that I simply do not understand, and frankly I don't even want to understand it. Please don't talk to me about how this particular group of African American kids in this grade and this class need to get this particular percentage because I don't know what you mean.

Okay, so... do I let my kid take the test or not? This is the question that I'm now facing for a second year. Every year I wonder what I should do, every year I ask people for their opinion and every year I still have no idea what I should do. So I end up saying "okay, fuck it, let him take it." Because I doubt he even knows he's taking a test, much less this Very Very Very Important Test. They pull him out of class and into the Learning Closet (formerly known as The Learning Center, but when the district decided to add a fifth 3rd grade class this year, naturally the SPED kids were the first to get the shaft, so they were moved from a nice big classroom and into a closet in order to make room. YAY!) and he hangs out with the Resource Teacher, who he likes and hangs out with all the time, anyway. She tests him, I guess, and he does his thing, I guess, and in the end we get a score in the mail over the summer. This is what we did last year and his scores came back as "Shittiest Scores Ever." That's actually what it said! (No it didn't.)

So, if his score doesn't count (I think) and they all suck, anyway, what the fuck is the point of him taking it? Because whenever the issue comes up, our Principal always STRESSES HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR HIM TO TAKE THE TEST REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME. Usually the argument is "he's going to be taking tests his whole life, he might as well get used to it," which I have never once bought. Because pulling him out of class to hang out in the Learning Closet, which is something he does every day of the week, doesn't seem to be adequate preparation for a life time of test taking and I don't see how anybody could make the argument that it IS. So I've always thought there was some other motivation going on there, because they really want him to take it... but why?

It was explained to me once that the Resource Specialist and the Principal had some kind of test participation quota they needed to meet and by having Child 1 take the test they were something something percentages good for them? (Okay, it's possible I didn't really understand the explanation; I mean, come on. I'm smart, but I'm not THAT smart!) So, having my kid in the Learning Closet and going through the test motions is a benefit to the school? Even though his score sucks? And it doesn't even count? Well, okay, honestly, I'm cool with that. I have nothing but respect for anybody who would even dare stand up in front of a room full of kids and try to teach them shit, so I usually just do whatever they tell me. If I thought for a second that my kid's self esteem was at all impacted by any of this, I assure you I would have a much stronger opinion about it, but he doesn't seem to give a shit, so neither do I. Fuck it! Let him take it!

But then there's the whole "taking a political stance" by having my kid opt out, which all parents are allowed to do, by the way; nobody is actually required to take the test, despite what school officials will tell you. (Apparently teachers all know this but they're not allowed to tell parents.) And, shit, I'm ALL for taking a political stance if it's something I believe in, but as I've said, I've never been able to get a satisfying explanation from anybody about why I should or shouldn't have my kid take the test, so I've toyed with the idea but never actually done it. But... would my opting him out have been able to help save Rigoberto Ruelas' life, or others that may come after him? That's a good enough reason for me, I'll do anything to help teachers... but is that what I should do? Is it the right thing to do? And if it is... how? And WHY?

Anyway, it's only our 2nd year with this, but I go through this every time we have an IEP and every time the subject is mentioned. And I never know what to do. And I never feel good about what I decide because I've never been able to form a solid opinion on the subject and I don't like being uninformed.

My point? Yes, I do have one: Standardized testing starts this week! And there I was, wondering once again if I was doing the right thing, when Child 1 wakes up and apparently makes the decision for me, in the form of fucking barfing everywhere.... repeatedly. Guess he's not taking the test, after all! Um. Thanks?



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But then aren't they going to have him do the make up testing? Then he'll miss classroom hours instead of the time all the other kids are taking the test too.
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Barfing, huh? I. feel. your. pain. Hope he gets better soon!!
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Oh god I have this issue too. My kids do not test well and usually do bad on these tests. They get so stressed and that is all anyone talks about for months leading up to the tests. I had no idea you can "opt out" I think we should all "opt out" the testing is really ridiculous in my opinion. I say opt out.
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you can totally opt out! Odds are he'll go and hang out with the resource teacher again--but maybe they can get some good learnin' on instead.

And officials can't explain it to you because THEY don't understand either. All i know is that i was told you can't tell parents they can opt out, and to make sure the butts are in seats for the damn thing.

It is a ridiculous measure of absolutely nothing. I knew kids who got excellent scores on the damn thing but couldn't write a decent essay for nothin'.

And those dire consequences? Just more rules and regulations and cuts. (i worked in a "failing school, and their idea of "reform" was to make the males teachers wear ties and the female teachers wear pantyhose. Yes. I got WRITTEN UP for not wearing pantyhose. Do these people think me getting a yeast infection is going to improve a school's API?

OBVIOUSLY, i've got a bias here. but IMHO--OPT OUT. The test is bullshit and measures NOTHING except the ability for school officials to actually do something organized. and even that may be in question.

*steps off soap box*
5 replies · active 725 weeks ago
But WHY? If my kid taking the test is a benefit to the school, and it seems to be; and if he doesn't care one way or the other, what is the benefit of opting out?
OMG Joey! An actual answer! Middle class parents need to get pissed; isn't that kind of how everything works? Anything that benefits the higher classes and is a burden on the lower classes will never get changed unless the people that benefit decide it should?

But I'm not pissed. In fact, my kid told me today that the test was fun because he likes filling in bubbles.
Opting out is the only option at this point. Closing public schools is the main objective and testing is the tool being used to close them. The test pushers could care less about better learning. They have implemented a system that was designed to produce failure. You can't allow your child to be used as "supporting data" for dismantling our public schools
I get that argument, I really do. I agree with you and believe that there is a movement to get rid of public schools in this country. However, I'm stuck on the idea that my opting my kid out will actually have an impact either way. I don't mean to argue with you, I honestly just don't know what to think.

This came home in a letter from the district superintendent this week: ".. the law requires every school to have a 95% testing participation rate in each category of students.... Failure to test 95% of the students in each group penalizes the school.... I want you to recognize that the exercise of your legal option to exempt your student from the tests can hurt the entire school. Perhaps this is another reason why the law must be changed."

Now, maybe you might tell me that using the argument "opting your kid out hurts the school" is a way of emotionally manipulating me into not opting out... but that shit WORKS on me! I don't want to hurt my entire school by opting my kid out, and if that's what would happen, then I'm not going to do it.

So, again.... since I'm so on the fence about it, I can probably be persuaded. Persuade me!!!
I think barfing is a perfect response to standardized testing. Imagine if we got entire schools and their parents to do that on testing days, just outside the school, on the sidewalk. What an awesome message!
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Sorry the puke fairy is making another visit. :-(

Hope he feels better soon.
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VerbVixen · 725 weeks ago

Ok so I don't have kids but I am connected to higher education and my best friend is an administrator at arguably the worst charter school in Newark NJ (yes the district that they made the documentary about). That being said I would like to add a giant F U to the standardized test board, these idiot administrators, the politicians, and I better stop or I'll go on all day.

Also to the principal I would say this: A lifetime of test taking? When was the last time you took a test in the real world? Right. Thought so. Really a "lifetime of testing" means arguably 12 years of testing which the principal has a vetted interest in. Those 12 years of testing might be really important to him but in the grand scheme of a life they mean nothing. No one ever died thinking, damn I wish I did better on that standardized test. What we should be teaching kids is how to read and write and think and I guess arithmetic too. Beyond that, we should teach them what it means to be a good human being because character is always more important than intelligence.
End rant.

Side note: I actually had a friend barf on the state test in 3rd grade. TRUE STORY.
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Yeah, that's a pretty stupid argument IMO. I think they were just trying to convince me of the necessity of the test. All they had to do was tell me the truth, though. At least as far as I've been able to figure out what the truth is.
Standardized testing is lame. That is all.
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I was reading with great attention and contemplation until you said he barfed and made the choice for you. I guess it will come up again and again though so here is my thought. You seem very pro teacher and that is a great thing. If the testing is correlated to funding - revoking it if there are not enough butts in the seats taking the test, and you want to get him out of the learning closet, then let him take the test. If there isn't I'm a little lost on why it is important to the teacher?? Her job? That can't be right...

If more than one kid were to opt out, it might make a difference. I did not know that was an option until you just told me now. The score is not a measure of who your child is or how smart he is any more than those assessments for the initial diagnosis told you anything about who he was then. If it bothers you to see that test score, pull him.

I think your real struggle is with what the benefit actually is to the teacher and school. Once you figure that part out, the rest is easy. :)
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1 reply · active 725 weeks ago
You're absolutely right, that is my real struggle. I want to help the school; not the principal, who I can't fucking stand, but the teachers. Does having him take the test help the teachers? If somebody can show me how it does, this won't be an issue for me. Until then I'm stuck wondering if I need to make a stand about something I don't really get.
It's all about the funding. They don't get paid extra if your kid does well, just how many sheep take the test in general.

I got out of school about 2 years before they started doing this in HS. I'm glad I missed it. The SAT's were bad enough, but another 8 hour test? I'll pass.
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They don't get paid extra if my kid does well? So they actually make money on my kid's bad score?
Solodialogue is right. If there's a clear benefit (to teacher, school, etc.), and he doesn't mind, he might as well take it. But if no one can articulate the reason/benefits of him taking the test--and this in itself is TERRIBLE (they're TEACHERS for godsake!)--then I would just let your son and barfing be your guide-guilt free! As a kid, I loved standardized test days. They were like a game and you didn't have to do regular work-yippee! But I ended up with one test taker child and one who refused to actually try and her scores indicated that she should immediately (Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200) head to The Learning Closet. But, as a teacher, I think our assessment system in general is severely broken so I didn't worry too much about it. Unfortunately our public school system is now considering making the test score count for 15-20% of a student's grade! Good grief! Glad my kids are out.
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1 reply · active 725 weeks ago
I totally agree with you.
My elementary/middle school was a freak accident left over from the 1970s- an alternative, anti-test public school. We (students and teachers) opted out in great numbers every year during standardized tests but now that I look back on it, I wonder if it didn't screw us over- I was always a great test taker and my scores could have, in some minimal way, boosted our standing in the district that was always trying to shut us down.

That said, I think the whole testing thing is bogus so.. who knows!

Loved this guys take:
http://www.anurbanteacherseducation.com/2011/05/t...
I posted a list of "talking points" about why some parents choose to refuse standardized testing for their children: http://www.markwelchblog.com/2011/04/04/boycottin...

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Thanks, Mark, however... I'm sorry but none of those "talking points" are anything I would say, and reading your list doesn't convince me of anything. No offense! I'm honestly looking for somebody to give me a good reason other than "NCLB sucks" and "The test isn't an accurate measure of anything." So far I haven't heard anything so I remain unconvinced.... Convince me?
The whole problem with today's testing isn't so much that it's testing, per se, as what's actually on the test. When I was a kid, we had a standardized test every year, but it tested skills, not knowledge. I didn't need to know anything about American history or how a plant grows; I just had to be able to comprehend what I was reading and do some basic math. No one taught to the test, and I don't recall any stress being attached to the test at all; they taught us skills all year, which is all that a school should be teaching. I can look up facts and figures in a book, but I can't look up how to think clearly or balance my checkbook. If they want to prepare children for a lifetime in the real world, they ought to be looking at skill building.

I know, I'm preaching to the choir here. Anywho, if Child 1 is barfing, keep him home and away from the stress-fest. He may not be stressed over the test, but he might be picking up the general increase in stress at school as the test draws closer. We autists are very sensitive to these kinds of insanities.

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Oooh, good point
*which is all that a school should be teaching* ... I meant, when it comes to standardized testing. Clearly, a school needs to be teaching other things besides basic skills.
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I'm sorry he's sick! How about this... if they ask to have him make up the testing.. ask that they provide a reasonable explanation of WHY, if it's of no benefit to the school (since his scores don't count anyhow). I don't think an explanation for why they think it's so important is too much to ask. I also (personally) think, "he'll be taking tests his entire life" is a cop out and they should be offering you much more well thought out explanations if they want to have him test like THAT. It's one thing to take a spelling test, it's another to take a state mandated hour(s) long test. Sorry for the long comment... I had time on my hands as half the office was out today!! lol
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Handflapper · 725 weeks ago

No Child Left Behind is the single worst piece of shit educational legislation ever passed in this country. Thanks again, Dubya, you dumbass twat.

Here in Arkansas if students can sit up and breathe on their own, they're not allowed to opt out of the test. And those who do opt out are instead evaluated by "portfolio," which consists of videotaping their performance of IEP goals, like picking up a Cheerio with a pincer grasp or something. And you know what gets done with these portfolios that special ed teachers spend hours and hours working on? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

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It made me split my comment because it said it was too long. This is one of my soap boxes. Sorry, y'all.

If it doesn't bother your son to take the test, let him take it. With a few jillion grains of salt, because it will in no way be indicative of what he can do. Those tests are skewed toward students who are already good test takers. I excelled on them, just as I did on the ACT and SAT. Whoop-de-do. It didn't increase my earning power, make me a super model, or cause my husband to love me any more.
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I'm glad when the kids make the decisions for you....I hope he feels better soon and if anything it gave you more time to think about opting out....
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A perfect reason to opt out! If this happened with my kids I would very happily and easily say Fuck The Test
Yeah, I can see your points. The accomodations do not mean that the test doesn't count, it just means that your child is in a subgroup along with the entire school. So, it counts like twice. Stick to it, you know your kid.
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What WON'T barf get you out of. Well played, Child 1. Well played, indeed.
I hate this shit! (The test, I mean.) My kids were so worried about it that they couldn't sleep last night. I finally had to sit them down and tell them it had absolutely nothing to do with their grade in class. If they completely failed the test, it wouldn't bring down their report card grades. How stupid to have an entire week dedicated to tests that did nothing but worry kids, teachers and administrators. Just plain stupid!
None of this makes any sense (not your post - the testing). I'm so glad my kid is still in preschool and I won't have to deal with this for a few more years.
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1 reply · active 725 weeks ago
I don't wanna be a shameless self promoter here but well maybe I do...I have a blog where I am slowly uncovering the "evils" of education such as standardized testing. Slowly...as there is a million subjects to blog about, a job to go to, an infant to watch full-time, husband to pay attention to, house to clean...you get the point.
I am excited to see how my niece-daugher (no, nothing incestual..she is my neice but I've babysat her,etc so many times she calls me her 2nd mom) took her first standardized exams ever this week....I want to know how she did. But then I know to not put so much validity into the tests. I do know I will shhhhh.....don't tell.....request my child be exempt from the exams. Shhh...I am not allowed to tell you that you can do that. But you already knew you could do that. 3rseduc.blogspot.com
I'm late to the commenting party here, but had to say something. I'm opting out when my kid gets to 2nd grade for no other reason than I've always had a problem with compliance. I mean, the more somebody tells me that it HAS to be done, or it's NECESSARY, the less inclined I am to do it. Because I'm suspicious, that's why (and kind of a bitch too). Herding all the kids in to take a test that measures space and time, and not taking it might tear a whole in that space and time, well then HELL NO are we taking it. Because I want to SEE if it really tears a hole in space and time (it won't).

Plus, I don't believe in teaching to the test. That's not how human beings learn.
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